tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15586866.post2039937172605855499..comments2023-12-24T12:00:43.714-05:00Comments on Tune: Kings Lynn: More Liturgical Fish in a Barrel: and I Brought a ShotgunC. Wingatehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13335513246185768918noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15586866.post-34090936940106290542012-06-01T12:56:30.284-04:002012-06-01T12:56:30.284-04:00KJ, I appreciate your arguments for putting it all...KJ, I appreciate your arguments for putting it all in the leaflet. Back when they consecrated the national Cathedral a leaflet was the only practical recourse; however, that was also long enough ago that the cathedral's rite was actually that of the prayer book. More recently, at the Bishop of Maryland's consecration, many liberties were taken. Being able to edit the rite seems to be an irresistible temptation to too many priests, unfortunately.C. Wingatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13335513246185768918noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15586866.post-79279145134589216552012-05-17T13:45:08.860-04:002012-05-17T13:45:08.860-04:00As one who is decidedly not in favor of many of th...As one who is decidedly not in favor of many of the SCLM's proposed liturgical innovations and who celebrates a straight-up BCP liturgy every Sunday, I want to gently push back against the anti-printed service sheet sentiment I see here. When I arrived at my present parish I began the practice of using a fully printed service sheet, and those reasons have nothing to do with wanting to muck around with the liturgy of the prayer book. <br /><br />First, I wanted to eliminate the BCP/hymnal juggle, and since we use two hymnals ('82 and LEVAS), the required acrobatics were even more cumbersome, so having the hymns and service music in one place was enormously helpful. Secondly, the service leaflet was part of an overall evangelism strategy directed at people with little or no faith background. The feedback I consistently got from visitors and newcomers was that following the service was confusing, and let's face it, the BCP is not an easy book to follow, especially if one is also juggling hymnals. Finally, I wanted people to know why we do certain things, so I expanded the rubrics by adding some explanations. I do think that literacy with the BCP is important, however, so if newcomers decide to make this parish their spiritual home they have the option of attending the BCP Bootcamp class I teach every year, where I tend to place emphasis on the Daily Office.<br /><br />KJ+Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15586866.post-19716680646419133592012-05-16T15:25:53.871-04:002012-05-16T15:25:53.871-04:00C.Wingate,
That is the source of my own unease wit...C.Wingate,<br />That is the source of my own unease with fully printed-out bulletins. they make it SO much easier for specious liturgy to creep in. I'm currently trying to untie the knots left by my predecessor who was, judging by the liturgical nightmare he left behind, a United Church of Christ Arian. Mind you, if SCLM eventually tackles a new BCP I may be the one printing off bulletins...my own Wee Bookies.<br />AO+Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15586866.post-89736918619810278042012-05-16T00:13:57.118-04:002012-05-16T00:13:57.118-04:00Dick, right now I see things developing as Melanie...Dick, right now I see things developing as Melanie Wright once told me: the BCP sits unused in the rack, and parishes will increasingly go to material in service leaflets or the like. The peril in this, of course, is that the average parishioner is then completely at the mercy of the rector/celebrant, and as the rites deviate increasingly from those in the BCP, it's hard to assess their legitimacy except by turning up the Protestantism and personally critiquing the theology; the assurance that one is getting the church's own rite is next to nonexistent. It's already the case, in my experience, that if the entire liturgy is written out, it probably deviates from the BCP rite in at least one place.C. Wingatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13335513246185768918noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15586866.post-57196171538728042232012-05-11T12:55:39.001-04:002012-05-11T12:55:39.001-04:00Ha! Well said. I have long remarked that the onl...Ha! Well said. I have long remarked that the only sin recognized in the Episcopal Church is voting Republican. Or -- local to NC -- supporting Amendment One. <br /><br />But I happily don't see anyone trying to do a revision to the BCP. Perhaps we can't afford it. But a revision to the 1979 BCP may be the straw that breaks the proverbial back.<br /><br />Dick MitchellAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15586866.post-78806714044326226382012-05-05T15:29:16.504-04:002012-05-05T15:29:16.504-04:00I, for one, welcome our new liturgical overlords. ...I, for one, welcome our new liturgical overlords. <br /><br />This is why I dread the coming of a new Book of Common Prayer: not because it cannot be better than the one currently in use (I use the term "in use" loosely) but because it probably won't be better and will likely be something much, much worse. Indeed, it will probably not be recognizably Christian at all. <br /><br />As a former Episcopalian, I don't really have a dog in this fight except to note how much it pains me to watch a church willfully self-destruct like this, leaving any number of faithful, scripture-believing, sacrament-trusting Christians out in the cold.Jon innoreply@blogger.com